Liberals?-Conservatives?-Left?-Right?-Rights?-Whose?-Yours?-Mine?-Angryman Speaks!!!

08 Oct

I was out browsing the usual blogs today when I found a very
good article discussing constitutional rights vs. privileges etc. It was obviously
written by a person of Liberal bent. It was well written and I found the
information interesting but a bit confusing in the way laws can be when the
details are committed to paper. But as I was reading, something kept nagging at
me and I finally realized what it was and articulated my concern to the
blogger. My concern was his wording of the second amendment to the

He writes:

“state militia to bear arms” (Second Amendment)

The actual wording is:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”

My political opinions run pretty far left and I see this kind
of perversion of this amendment frequently; usually from the Left. Not my left
but most people’s.

So I commented to him and with the full intention of posting
it here as well as follows:

I am not familiar with you or your credentials but I do know
that the quotation I have sited is from the US government web site

One of the things I find so reprehensible about the Tea Party
and other Conservatives is their tendency to twist things around to look as
though their position is stronger than it is.

Your per “version” of the text of this amendment is just such
an act. I don’t mind that you disagree with me.

I don’t even mind that you insist on “interpreting” the
Constitution rather than accepting it as written.

But I do mind and I think it undignified to change the words
of a historical document of such import to the American people to make it look
as though the Constitution supports the idea that a government sponsored Militia
are the only persons with the right to bear arms when the actual text says
clearly the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a scary idea I know especially for those who don’t
use or want guns. But the fact that one person finds the idea of millions of
Americans armed frightening, doesn’t change the wording or intent of the
Constitution as written.

I fail to understand how a Liberal can say he’s a Liberal and
yet be in opposition to the right to bear arms. It is obvious from the
unadulterated amendment that the intention was for the citizens to bear arms to
keep their state free. State as in Maryland, Virginia, not the larger sense of
a nation. The people were assured this right in order to be able to defend
themselves from invasion by a foreign country or by the federal government.
Militias were not standing troops attached to the federal government or the
army. They kept their weapons at home and were counted on to defend the colony
or state.

The National Guard is not the same thing. It is far too much
under the control of the government both federal and state.

The Government likes the National Guard.

The Government doesn’t like Militias because they fall
outside the control of the Government chain of command.

That’s why we should like Militias.

But we can’t like an organized

They pose a danger. The only time you hear the word anymore
is in connection with some radical right wing fringe group holed up in a cave
in the Cascades or something but the real beauty is that because we have the
right to keep and bear arms, that same capability remains intact. We don’t need
an organized Militia. We just need a free people, well armed and willing to
take the stand when our freedom is threatened…….by anyone.

It is interesting that the only Liberal position taken by the
Conservative party is the right to bear arms.

Could it be that what they hope for is a well armed Tea Party
and an unarmed Liberal Party? Just a thought.

And that the one right the liberals don’t seem to be willing
to support is the right to bear arms.

But I submit that defense of that right is a Liberal, not a Conservative

Liberals are
the ones who seek to assure the people their rights.

seek to take those rights away. Except in this case.

In this case
the Conservatives are the defenders of the people’s rights and the Liberals are
bent on finding any deceitful way they can to “interpret” the Constitution and
use it to deny the people their rights

I find that
very strange. Mind-Boggling actually.

My opinions
run so far left that I make Democrats look like Fascists.

I support the
right of every American to own and carry openly a firearm of their choice.

Just as I
support their right to peaceably assemble; recognizing that such an assembly
can turn violent at a moment’s notice.

The assembly is not the crime. The violence is.

We have a right, recognized
and guaranteed by the Constitution to assemble.

Carrying a gun is not the crime. Shooting someone with it,
other than in self defense is.

We have a right recognized
and guaranteed by the Constitution to keep and bear arms.

I would feel hypocritical indeed if I defended a person’s
right to speak freely or chose their own religion or smoke marijuana or have
multiple spouses or commit suicide, but did not defend their equal and clearly
stated right to keep and carry. And I do support all of those things. Freedom
is “FREEDOM” not “FREEDOM except when I don’t like it”.

I tell my conservative friends, many of whom are
conservatives because of this issue and only because of this issue; that the
conservatives only support the right to bear arms to get the money and votes
that come with the Gun Lobby. That they, as supporters of this right are not
really Conservatives but have been fooled into thinking they are because of the
Liberals refusal to take this cause on and the Conservatives willingness to do
so as though supporting this one, of the peoples many rights makes them the
peoples champion.

I think by not
supporting this very basic right of the American people we have missed out on a
huge amount of support for our other positions. And we should have that support
not because we falsely cultivate it but because we genuinely support the rights
of gun owners just as vigorously as we defend and support the rights of people
who wish to speak their unpopular opinions or build a Mosque or burn the flag
or any of the other things that have often been the victim of the Conservative
Parties Quasi-Fascist Agenda.

I say:

If you want
to say you are a Liberal, You need to get Liberal Baby.

You can’t
support the rights you find particularly attractive, and not support the
ones I feel are particularly attractive.

It’s all or
nothing. You’re on the bus or off the bus. For the people’s rights or against
them. Eating the whole biscuit or not taking a bite. In for the Pound or keep
your bleeding Penny.

You can’t be
a halfway Liberal and expect respect from anyone; Liberals, Conservatives, or


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2 responses to “Liberals?-Conservatives?-Left?-Right?-Rights?-Whose?-Yours?-Mine?-Angryman Speaks!!!

  1. OH MY GOD

    October 17, 2011 at 22:01


    you seem to get Locke but what do you think about free markets? That used to be a liberal (in the true sense of the word) position.

    I find that “liberals” want all kinds of political freedoms, which is good, but do not want economic freedom, which in my mind is also good. It takes both political and economic freedom to be truly free.

    I think if you control markets you really cant be free because government will always be able to direct your will toward the most efficacious economic solution for government even though it might not be the best for you.

    • angrymanspeaks

      October 18, 2011 at 04:19

      Oh My God,
      I see your point and I would agree that a free market is best but when a relatively small group of people gain control of the market and turn it to their own ends, the only solution is to institute controls. The market isn’t the problem.
      James Madison predicted this situation would arise. Madison wrote:
      We are free today substantially but the day will come when our Republic will be an impossibility. It will be impossibility because wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a few. A republic cannot stand upon bayonets, and when that day comes, when the wealth of the nation will be in the hands of a few, then we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nation to the changed conditions.
      Well the time has come and as tempting as it is to just stand by and allow the nation to fall into oblivion and as hard as it will be to make the changes necessary; you ahve to look at it as if your child needed surgery. You know he doesn’t want it and it will hurt but you also know that when the surgery has healed, your child will be in far better health. The old standards of economic theory no longer work. Check out the video link below. There are a few words that sensitive folk may find offensive but the message is true and the guy speaking is spot on as far as the tale it tells.


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